Data mart for mobile devices and applications
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Data mart for mobile devices and applications
Hello
We have a requirement to create a data mart where we store mobile applications details and count on a weekly basis
Let us say there are 50,000 mobile devices and each could have say 10 applications . so a total of 500,000 appliications
We want to know what is the count of application either at one point of time or over a few points of time in history, say for the last 12 weeks or say for the last 6 months, every week.
so from a time dimension we want to store weekly data...including details of what the application type is , version...carrier...
ex.
type - .androis , ios,...
carrier - att , verion,...
region to where the device belongs...ex. americas, emea, (based on the employee who owns the device)...so there is a hr dimension also invlived.
I was intiailly thinking a fact table which will have
Date_id (typically last day of the week)
DEVICE_ID
Application_id
emploee_id
and then there need not be any real measures...as we could do
count of (distinct devic id)...to get device count
count if (application _id) to get total appcation count...
But this design may not be sustainable as if we store the data weekly then its way too much data...
from above numbers...
weekly ...500,000
monthly ...2 million
yearly ...24 million
I am also thinking that the one on HR data mart might be good one
http://www.kimballgroup.com/1998/02/02/human-resources-data-marts/
Just that for me its more like a Application data mart...where application is installed (hired) or deleted (terminated)...
The design at the url above is perhaps perfect to get count of application (with all required details) at one poiint of time...but doubt that will work if I want a trend on the count...or say I want historic count (example count for the alst 12 months)
Any inputs are much appreciated... !!
Thanks for your valuable time Gurus !!
We have a requirement to create a data mart where we store mobile applications details and count on a weekly basis
Let us say there are 50,000 mobile devices and each could have say 10 applications . so a total of 500,000 appliications
We want to know what is the count of application either at one point of time or over a few points of time in history, say for the last 12 weeks or say for the last 6 months, every week.
so from a time dimension we want to store weekly data...including details of what the application type is , version...carrier...
ex.
type - .androis , ios,...
carrier - att , verion,...
region to where the device belongs...ex. americas, emea, (based on the employee who owns the device)...so there is a hr dimension also invlived.
I was intiailly thinking a fact table which will have
Date_id (typically last day of the week)
DEVICE_ID
Application_id
emploee_id
and then there need not be any real measures...as we could do
count of (distinct devic id)...to get device count
count if (application _id) to get total appcation count...
But this design may not be sustainable as if we store the data weekly then its way too much data...
from above numbers...
weekly ...500,000
monthly ...2 million
yearly ...24 million
I am also thinking that the one on HR data mart might be good one
http://www.kimballgroup.com/1998/02/02/human-resources-data-marts/
Just that for me its more like a Application data mart...where application is installed (hired) or deleted (terminated)...
The design at the url above is perhaps perfect to get count of application (with all required details) at one poiint of time...but doubt that will work if I want a trend on the count...or say I want historic count (example count for the alst 12 months)
Any inputs are much appreciated... !!
Thanks for your valuable time Gurus !!
naresh1234- Posts : 6
Join date : 2014-01-30
Re: Data mart for mobile devices and applications
24 million rows is not a lot of data. With database partitioning the performance will be fine.
BoxesAndLines- Posts : 1212
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Location : USA
Re: Data mart for mobile devices and applications
A couple of thoughts...
1) How about having 2 date keys on your fact table - date added and date deleted; set the date deleted to a date far in the future for any non-deleted fact record? You can then find the count at any point in time (such as today) by querying where "today between date added and date deleted"
2) You need to declare the grain of your fact table and then stick to it. You state the measures are:
count of (distinct device id)...to get device count
count of (application _id) to get total application count
these are at different grains (one at the device level and one at the app/device level) which breaks one of the fundamental rules of the Kimball methodology. If you want both these measures then you need 2 fact tables. It would also be better to set the measures = 1 as you would then use a SUM when query the tables - which is generally faster than a COUNT.
Hope this helps
1) How about having 2 date keys on your fact table - date added and date deleted; set the date deleted to a date far in the future for any non-deleted fact record? You can then find the count at any point in time (such as today) by querying where "today between date added and date deleted"
2) You need to declare the grain of your fact table and then stick to it. You state the measures are:
count of (distinct device id)...to get device count
count of (application _id) to get total application count
these are at different grains (one at the device level and one at the app/device level) which breaks one of the fundamental rules of the Kimball methodology. If you want both these measures then you need 2 fact tables. It would also be better to set the measures = 1 as you would then use a SUM when query the tables - which is generally faster than a COUNT.
Hope this helps
nick_white- Posts : 364
Join date : 2014-01-06
Location : London
Partiotion
BoxesAndLines wrote:24 million rows is not a lot of data. With database partitioning the performance will be fine.
Thanks ! will explore this option further !
naresh1234- Posts : 6
Join date : 2014-01-30
Re: Data mart for mobile devices and applications
nick_white wrote:A couple of thoughts...
1) How about having 2 date keys on your fact table - date added and date deleted; set the date deleted to a date far in the future for any non-deleted fact record? You can then find the count at any point in time (such as today) by querying where "today between date added and date deleted"
2) You need to declare the grain of your fact table and then stick to it. You state the measures are:
count of (distinct device id)...to get device count
count of (application _id) to get total application count
these are at different grains (one at the device level and one at the app/device level) which breaks one of the fundamental rules of the Kimball methodology. If you want both these measures then you need 2 fact tables. It would also be better to set the measures = 1 as you would then use a SUM when query the tables - which is generally faster than a COUNT.
Hope this helps
Nick,
Thanks for the reply !
1.
I like this idea for sure and its more like what is mentioned at http://www.kimballgroup.com/1998/02/02/human-resources-data-marts/
This will definately give me counts at one point in time. But not sure how that would work for historic trend ? Say I wanted count over past 12 month , so want the count over 12 different points of time...say last day or every month. any ideas would be appreciated.
2.
Agreed the sum(measure), ie sum(1) to get the count...though the reason I would like both DEVICE and APP in the same table is, we need count of apps per device also.
Some flavors we need are
1. count of apps per month
2. counter of apps per operating system (and opertaing system is associated to device and not the app)
3. count of apps per region (region is based on employee who owns the device)
4. baiscally counts based on diferent combinations of attributes of the device and/or application or user.
Any further thoughts are much appreciated !!
Thanks a lot !!!
naresh1234- Posts : 6
Join date : 2014-01-30
Re: Data mart for mobile devices and applications
Hi,
regarding point 1: historic trends. The facts are semi-additive i.e. you can't sum across the date dimension (the count today + the count tomorrow has no meaning) so it needs a bit more thought. If you just want to pick a particular day of the month then you can run a query and constrain your date dimension on this (e.g. day = 1, 1st Monday in the month, etc.) - which is obviously easier if you have the relevant attribute in your date dimension. If your requirement is more complex, such as the month values used in the historic trend analysis are the average daily counts in the month then I would create a monthly snapshot fact table
Point 2: as long as your measure is count of apps and this is the grain of your fact table then all the examples are quite straightforward assuming you have the Dimensions you describe attached to the Fact. Where you will start getting into difficulties is if you try and add a measure for "count of devices" to this fact as it is at a different grain and you can't then just sum up the measures. Put this is a separate fact table and then as long as you are using conformed dimensions you can combine the facts by "querying across" e.g. combine "sum app count from app_fact group by date and operating system" with "sum device count from device_fact group by date and operating system": you can then perform calculations such as apps per device in the query rather than trying to hold this value in a fact table
Hope this helps
regarding point 1: historic trends. The facts are semi-additive i.e. you can't sum across the date dimension (the count today + the count tomorrow has no meaning) so it needs a bit more thought. If you just want to pick a particular day of the month then you can run a query and constrain your date dimension on this (e.g. day = 1, 1st Monday in the month, etc.) - which is obviously easier if you have the relevant attribute in your date dimension. If your requirement is more complex, such as the month values used in the historic trend analysis are the average daily counts in the month then I would create a monthly snapshot fact table
Point 2: as long as your measure is count of apps and this is the grain of your fact table then all the examples are quite straightforward assuming you have the Dimensions you describe attached to the Fact. Where you will start getting into difficulties is if you try and add a measure for "count of devices" to this fact as it is at a different grain and you can't then just sum up the measures. Put this is a separate fact table and then as long as you are using conformed dimensions you can combine the facts by "querying across" e.g. combine "sum app count from app_fact group by date and operating system" with "sum device count from device_fact group by date and operating system": you can then perform calculations such as apps per device in the query rather than trying to hold this value in a fact table
Hope this helps
nick_white- Posts : 364
Join date : 2014-01-06
Location : London
Here is what I am thinking
Thanks Nick for the reply !
Here is what I am thinking in case you get a chance to take a look at it and comment..
APP_FACT
Device_ID...ex..D123
App_ID......ex..APP123
Start_Date...
end_Date
Counter...always will have the value 1
DUMMY_INT_ID...always will have the value 1
DATE_DIM..This table will store only Fridays or will filter out only Friday from this table...as snapshots are taken only one a week for the project....
DUMMY_INT_ID...always have the value 1
DATE_VALUE...
WEEK_ID
Month
Year
the idea then is to create a cartesian product between the 2 tables (to use the DATE_VALUE from the DIM table and generate a row for every row in fact table against every selected row from the DATE_DIM table)
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YEAR,DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
sum
( case when DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE between APP_FACT.START_DATE and APP_FACT.END_DATE then
APP_FACT.COUNTER else 0 end)
FROM
DATE_DIM,
APP_FACT
WHERE
( APP_FACT.DUMMY_INT_ID=DATE_DIM.DUMMY_INT_ID)
AND
( DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE = )
GROUP BY
DATE_DIM.YEAR
===========
for a monthly snap shot
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YEAR,
DATE_DIM.MONTH,
sum
( case when DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE between APP_FACT.START_DATE and APP_FACT.END_DATE then
APP_FACT.COUNTER else 0 end)
FROM
DATE_DIM,
APP_FACT
WHERE
( APP_FACT.DUMMY_INT_ID=DATE_DIM.DUMMY_INT_ID)
AND
( DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE =( select max(D1.DATE_VALUE) from DATE_DIM D1 WHERE DATE_DIM.MONTH = D1.MONTH AND DATE_DIM.YEAR = D1.YEAR ) )
GROUP BY
DATE_DIM.YEAR,
DATE_DIM.MONTH
======
for a yearly snap shot...
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YEAR,
sum
( case when DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE between APP_FACT.START_DATE and APP_FACT.END_DATE then
APP_FACT.COUNTER else 0 end)
FROM
DATE_DIM,
APP_FACT
WHERE
( APP_FACT.DUMMY_INT_ID=DATE_DIM.DUMMY_INT_ID)
AND
( DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE =( select max(D1.DATE_VALUE) from SV_DATA.ZAFAN_DATE D1 WHERE SV_DATA.ZAFAN_DATE.YEAR = D1.YEAR ) )
GROUP BY
DATE_DIM.YEAR
any pitfalls that you see ?
Here is what I am thinking in case you get a chance to take a look at it and comment..
APP_FACT
Device_ID...ex..D123
App_ID......ex..APP123
Start_Date...
end_Date
Counter...always will have the value 1
DUMMY_INT_ID...always will have the value 1
DATE_DIM..This table will store only Fridays or will filter out only Friday from this table...as snapshots are taken only one a week for the project....
DUMMY_INT_ID...always have the value 1
DATE_VALUE...
WEEK_ID
Month
Year
the idea then is to create a cartesian product between the 2 tables (to use the DATE_VALUE from the DIM table and generate a row for every row in fact table against every selected row from the DATE_DIM table)
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YEAR,DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
sum
( case when DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE between APP_FACT.START_DATE and APP_FACT.END_DATE then
APP_FACT.COUNTER else 0 end)
FROM
DATE_DIM,
APP_FACT
WHERE
( APP_FACT.DUMMY_INT_ID=DATE_DIM.DUMMY_INT_ID)
AND
( DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE =
GROUP BY
DATE_DIM.YEAR
===========
for a monthly snap shot
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YEAR,
DATE_DIM.MONTH,
sum
( case when DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE between APP_FACT.START_DATE and APP_FACT.END_DATE then
APP_FACT.COUNTER else 0 end)
FROM
DATE_DIM,
APP_FACT
WHERE
( APP_FACT.DUMMY_INT_ID=DATE_DIM.DUMMY_INT_ID)
AND
( DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE =( select max(D1.DATE_VALUE) from DATE_DIM D1 WHERE DATE_DIM.MONTH = D1.MONTH AND DATE_DIM.YEAR = D1.YEAR ) )
GROUP BY
DATE_DIM.YEAR,
DATE_DIM.MONTH
======
for a yearly snap shot...
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YEAR,
sum
( case when DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE between APP_FACT.START_DATE and APP_FACT.END_DATE then
APP_FACT.COUNTER else 0 end)
FROM
DATE_DIM,
APP_FACT
WHERE
( APP_FACT.DUMMY_INT_ID=DATE_DIM.DUMMY_INT_ID)
AND
( DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE =( select max(D1.DATE_VALUE) from SV_DATA.ZAFAN_DATE D1 WHERE SV_DATA.ZAFAN_DATE.YEAR = D1.YEAR ) )
GROUP BY
DATE_DIM.YEAR
any pitfalls that you see ?
naresh1234- Posts : 6
Join date : 2014-01-30
Re: Data mart for mobile devices and applications
A few thoughts:
1. Your DATE_DIM should be a conformed Dim (as should all your Dims) that can be used across your DW - rather than storing only Fridays it should definitely have every day in it that could be referenced in your DW i.e. from prior to the date of the oldest record you hold to a date in the future past when you expect your DW to still be in use e.g. 2050
2. If you are going to have monthly and yearly snapshots then you will need to aggregate your Date_Dim table up to Month_dim and Year_Dim
3. I'm not clear what the purpose is of your first SQL statement or the DUMMY_INT_ID column. Assuming your Date_dim has a year-month column (holding values such as 201402) and a last day of the month flag, the SQL to create you monthly snapshot might be something like (assuming you want to snapshot the position on the last day of the month):
SELECT
DATE_DI.YEAR_MONTH, -- This will be the SK value in your month_dim
SUM (APP_FACT.COUNTER)
FROM
APP_FACT
INNER JOIN DATE_DIM ON APP_FACT.START_DATE <= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE AND APP_FACT.END_DATE >= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
WHERE DATE_DIM.LAST_DAY_IN_MONTH_FLAG = 'Y'
Logic for your yearly snapshot would be similar - up to you whether you have a "last day in year" flag on your date dim or just put month_day = 1231 in your WHERE clause
1. Your DATE_DIM should be a conformed Dim (as should all your Dims) that can be used across your DW - rather than storing only Fridays it should definitely have every day in it that could be referenced in your DW i.e. from prior to the date of the oldest record you hold to a date in the future past when you expect your DW to still be in use e.g. 2050
2. If you are going to have monthly and yearly snapshots then you will need to aggregate your Date_Dim table up to Month_dim and Year_Dim
3. I'm not clear what the purpose is of your first SQL statement or the DUMMY_INT_ID column. Assuming your Date_dim has a year-month column (holding values such as 201402) and a last day of the month flag, the SQL to create you monthly snapshot might be something like (assuming you want to snapshot the position on the last day of the month):
SELECT
DATE_DI.YEAR_MONTH, -- This will be the SK value in your month_dim
SUM (APP_FACT.COUNTER)
FROM
APP_FACT
INNER JOIN DATE_DIM ON APP_FACT.START_DATE <= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE AND APP_FACT.END_DATE >= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
WHERE DATE_DIM.LAST_DAY_IN_MONTH_FLAG = 'Y'
Logic for your yearly snapshot would be similar - up to you whether you have a "last day in year" flag on your date dim or just put month_day = 1231 in your WHERE clause
nick_white- Posts : 364
Join date : 2014-01-06
Location : London
Thanks Again !
Thanks Again Nick !
1. Agreed. I was just using a quick and dirty example, I will be using an already existing DIM that goes by what you are saying.
3. Agreed, much better approach, I will test it out.
2. I am not sure I got this one. Are you talking of aggregating the data in the FACT table ? In the FACT table from what I am thinking and the design I proposed in the tables (with ur help) does not require aggregating the data in the table ? did I miss something ?
Regards,
1. Agreed. I was just using a quick and dirty example, I will be using an already existing DIM that goes by what you are saying.
3. Agreed, much better approach, I will test it out.
2. I am not sure I got this one. Are you talking of aggregating the data in the FACT table ? In the FACT table from what I am thinking and the design I proposed in the tables (with ur help) does not require aggregating the data in the table ? did I miss something ?
Regards,
naresh1234- Posts : 6
Join date : 2014-01-30
Re: Data mart for mobile devices and applications
Hi,
point 2: sorry, probably wasn't that clear. When you aggregate your fact data from the day level up to the month (or year level) and put it into a new fact table you can't have an SK in the new fact table referencing your DATE_DIM (because the 'grain' of that Dim is days). So you need to create a new MONTH_DIM (and/or YEAR_DIM) that takes all the month/year specific attributes from your DATE_DIM - the following table illustrates this though unless you can think of more useful attributes to add to the YEAR_DIM it would make more sense to treat this as a degenerate dimension on the Fact table rather than creating a Dim table for it:
point 2: sorry, probably wasn't that clear. When you aggregate your fact data from the day level up to the month (or year level) and put it into a new fact table you can't have an SK in the new fact table referencing your DATE_DIM (because the 'grain' of that Dim is days). So you need to create a new MONTH_DIM (and/or YEAR_DIM) that takes all the month/year specific attributes from your DATE_DIM - the following table illustrates this though unless you can think of more useful attributes to add to the YEAR_DIM it would make more sense to treat this as a degenerate dimension on the Fact table rather than creating a Dim table for it:
DATE_DIM | MONTH_DIM | YEAR_DIM |
D_DATE_SK | D_MONTH_SK | D_YEAR_SK |
D_DATE_BK | D_MONTH_BK | D_YEAR_BK |
FULL_DATE | ||
DAY_SHORT_NAME | ||
DAY_FULL_NAME | ||
DAY_NUMBER_IN_WEEK | ||
DAY_NUMBER_IN_MONTH | ||
DAY_NUMBER_IN_YEAR | ||
WEEK_NUMBER_IN_MONTH | ||
WEEK_NUMBER_IN_YEAR | ||
MONTH | MONTH | |
MONTH_NUMBER | MONTH_NUMBER | |
MONTH_SHORT_NAME | MONTH_SHORT_NAME | |
MONTH_FULL_NAME | MONTH_FULL_NAME | |
DAYS_IN_MONTH | DAYS_IN_MONTH | |
QUARTER_NUMBER | QUARTER_NUMBER | |
BEG_OF_QUARTER | BEG_OF_QUARTER | |
END_OF_QUARTER | END_OF_QUARTER | |
DAYS_IN_QUARTER | DAYS_IN_QUARTER | |
YEAR | YEAR | YEAR |
WEEK_DAY_FLAG | ||
WEEK_END_FLAG | ||
DAYS_IN_YEAR | DAYS_IN_YEAR | |
DAY_DESC | ||
MONTH_DESC | MONTH_DESC | |
WEEK_DESC | ||
QUARTER_DESC | QUARTER_DESC | |
QUARTER_KEY | QUARTER_KEY | |
MONTH_KEY | MONTH_KEY | |
WEEK_KEY | ||
ORDINAL_DATE | ||
CALENDAR_MONTH | CALENDAR_MONTH |
nick_white- Posts : 364
Join date : 2014-01-06
Location : London
No need to aggregate !
Thanks again Nick !
But after what we discsused abve I am not seeing a need to aggregate anything from a day to month or year level
APP_FACT
Device_ID...ex..D123
App_ID......ex..APP123
Start_Date...
end_Date
Counter...always will have the value 1
DATE_DIM..This table will have all dates with a column for last day or week and last day or month and last day of year...
DATE_VALUE...
WEEK_ID
Month
Year
and then with the sql that u proposed I can get snaphot for any date, month (last day of mont) or year (last day of year)....
Any day
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YDATE_VALUE, -- This will be the SK value in your month_dim
SUM (APP_FACT.COUNTER)
FROM
APP_FACT
INNER JOIN DATE_DIM ON APP_FACT.START_DATE <= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE AND APP_FACT.END_DATE >= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
WHERE DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE =
Any Month
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YDATE_VALUE, -- This will be the SK value in your month_dim
SUM (APP_FACT.COUNTER)
FROM
APP_FACT
INNER JOIN DATE_DIM ON APP_FACT.START_DATE <= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE AND APP_FACT.END_DATE >= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
WHERE DATE_DIM.LAST_DAY_IN_MONTH_FLAG = 'Y' and year = and month =
If I want all the months in year
All Months in a year
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YDATE_VALUE, -- This will be the SK value in your month_dim
SUM (APP_FACT.COUNTER)
FROM
APP_FACT
INNER JOIN DATE_DIM ON APP_FACT.START_DATE <= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE AND APP_FACT.END_DATE >= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
WHERE DATE_DIM.LAST_DAY_IN_MONTH_FLAG = 'Y' and year = and month =
At any point of time my FACT table will have only one row for each app on any particular device.
say for Device123 and App123 there will be only one row any time...
when the device is deleted the END_DATE will be updated....
Thanks a lot for all your valuable input !!
But after what we discsused abve I am not seeing a need to aggregate anything from a day to month or year level
APP_FACT
Device_ID...ex..D123
App_ID......ex..APP123
Start_Date...
end_Date
Counter...always will have the value 1
DATE_DIM..This table will have all dates with a column for last day or week and last day or month and last day of year...
DATE_VALUE...
WEEK_ID
Month
Year
and then with the sql that u proposed I can get snaphot for any date, month (last day of mont) or year (last day of year)....
Any day
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YDATE_VALUE, -- This will be the SK value in your month_dim
SUM (APP_FACT.COUNTER)
FROM
APP_FACT
INNER JOIN DATE_DIM ON APP_FACT.START_DATE <= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE AND APP_FACT.END_DATE >= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
WHERE DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE =
Any Month
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YDATE_VALUE, -- This will be the SK value in your month_dim
SUM (APP_FACT.COUNTER)
FROM
APP_FACT
INNER JOIN DATE_DIM ON APP_FACT.START_DATE <= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE AND APP_FACT.END_DATE >= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
WHERE DATE_DIM.LAST_DAY_IN_MONTH_FLAG = 'Y' and year =
If I want all the months in year
All Months in a year
SELECT
DATE_DIM.YDATE_VALUE, -- This will be the SK value in your month_dim
SUM (APP_FACT.COUNTER)
FROM
APP_FACT
INNER JOIN DATE_DIM ON APP_FACT.START_DATE <= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE AND APP_FACT.END_DATE >= DATE_DIM.DATE_VALUE
WHERE DATE_DIM.LAST_DAY_IN_MONTH_FLAG = 'Y' and year =
At any point of time my FACT table will have only one row for each app on any particular device.
say for Device123 and App123 there will be only one row any time...
when the device is deleted the END_DATE will be updated....
Thanks a lot for all your valuable input !!
naresh1234- Posts : 6
Join date : 2014-01-30
Re: Data mart for mobile devices and applications
Hi - the reason for creating aggregates is to improve performance. If you hold the data at the day level and the queries that produce monthly, or yearly, summaries run quickly enough then there is no need to build aggregates - and if you don't have these aggregates fact tables then you don't need "aggregate" Dim tables such as Month or Year.
When and where to create aggregates is always a trade-off between the query performance gain of having them and the overhead of maintaining them
Regards,
When and where to create aggregates is always a trade-off between the query performance gain of having them and the overhead of maintaining them
Regards,
nick_white- Posts : 364
Join date : 2014-01-06
Location : London
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